GOTTA SEE THIS-WarEndur.Freedom 09/20/03-Pakistan,Afghanistan,Chaman

GOTTA SEE THIS - War for Enduring Freedom 09/20/03 - Chaman, Bagram, Kabul, Khost, southeast Afghanistan

BREAKING: Bilals confess

BREAKING: Pakistan and Afghanistan border, Chaman, Quetta,

BREAKING: Bagram - minor explosion

BREAKING: Kabul

BREAKING: Khost, Zadran

In the mountains of southeast Afghanistan,
a major joint Afghan-US offensive against hundreds of suspected
Taliban has left 124 terrorists killed.

In Kabul, at a school, Afghan girls FREED by the USA
learn. Today, 4.2 million Afghan children are in 7,000 schools.
There was a 37 percent increase in the number of girls in school since last year.

In Kabul, the All Afghan Women Union on Sept. 17, 2003 after it was ransacked.
After being liberated by the USA and freed of their burqae,
the UN and Islamic countries demanded (love of slavery and diversity?) that the women
return to their burka and second class citizen status. Sadly, they have.

In Bagram, an Afghan failed to cleanly cut open a rocket to sell as scrap metal.
It exploded, killing three, injuring five.

In Khost, Afghanistan, 80 miles from Kabul,
troublemaker Afghan Padshah Khan Zadran
in his mountain hideout.

At the Pakistani-Afghan border of Chaman, 125 km (78 miles) from Quetta, on the Pakistani side.

At the Torkham border near Peshawar, Pakistan,
many including al-Qaida terrorists cross.

In Portland, Ore., Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal and Muhammad Bilal, brothers,
two of seven people in Portland who aided terrorists.
They pleaded guilty Thursday to charges of conspiring to help al-Qaida and the Taliban during the war in Afghanistan.

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2 posted on 09/19/2003 12:48 PM EDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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May their freedom grow and prosper and not be strangled by the likes of the U.N. and "concerned" neighbors. Once again, I am reminded of how thankful I am to have been born 'n' raised in the good ol' U.S. of A. God bless America, and God bless our American troops.

5 posted on 09/19/2003 12:55 PM EDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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7 posted on 09/19/2003 12:58 PM EDT by LindaSOG (Not enough is said about the bad luck of the early worm.)
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8 posted on 09/19/2003 1:08 PM EDT by Darksheare (Ever try surfing FR while sitting upside down? Not for the soft of head, sorry DUers.)
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Thanks for the pics Diogenesis. Here is one of some Turkish troops. I sure hope no one ever puts a curse on their mustaches. If so, they will be in biggggggggg trouble.

Turkish soldiers, parading here in the uniforms of the former Ottoman army. Turkey's civilian and military leaders were to convene to discuss the controversial issue of a possible Turkish troops deployment in Iraq.(AFP/File/Tarik Tinazay)

Thanks for the ping! More evidence of what we're up against. :-(

But this was a good excuse to bump one of the best threads on FR. ;-)

12 posted on 09/19/2003 1:15 PM EDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...)
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"Wee represent ... the Lollipop Guild... The Lollipop Guild.... The Lollipop Guild...."

The UN should be ashamed of themselves. Socialists don't seem to like to see women get ahead. What a sorry bunch the UN is. I hope Bush really keeps them out of Iraq. m

Continuing heartfelt thanks Dio with blessings to our brave troops, our allies and the innocents and newly free...

17 posted on 09/19/2003 1:37 PM EDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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Oh sure, we won the war . . . But
why didn't Bush and Rumsfeld send in the
interior decorators? </'rat talking point>

21 posted on 09/19/2003 2:38 PM EDT by Wild Thing (~~America and Israel have the SAME terrorists .Support our Troops and the IDF ! ~~)
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24 posted on 09/19/2003 3:25 PM EDT by PokeyJoe (Don't talk about my armchair unless you know how to pull the recliner lever.)
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West's feminists under fire from female general

WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 28 2001
FROM STEPHEN FARRELL IN KABUL
THE general leans forward in the gathering gloom, her eyes glinting with anger, and delivers a surprise attack on an unexpected foreign enemy.
Not the Soviet Union for invading Afghanistan, nor the Americans still bombing her country. Not the Pakistani-backed Taleban, nor yet their Arab legions, whose Wahhabi fundamentalism fuelled much of the regime’s misogyny.
Instead General Suhaila Siddiq, 60, sighs with exasperation at Western feminists and their obsession with the burka, the all-enveloping veil whose forcible use symbolised for many outsiders the Taleban’s oppressive rule.
“The first priority should be given to education, primary school facilities, the economy and reconstruction of the country but the West concentrates on the burka and whether the policies of the Taleban are better or worse than other regimes,” she says dismissively. “Let these things be decided by history.”
She believes that the burka, which was worn long before the Taleban and still is by most women around Kabul, is not the battlefield upon which to fight their war.
General Siddiq is Afghanistan’s only woman general, a surgeon, hospital director and heroine to a generation of young women who remained in the country. Born in Kandahar the daughter of a powerful regional governor, she is that rare thing: an Afghan Pashtun who is not comfortable speaking her own language and prefers Persian, historically the language of the Kabul elite.
Now head of the Women and Children’s Hospital in Kabul, she is scornful of exiled Afghan women’s rights campaigners and Western feminists who champion their agenda. Her most withering comments are reserved for such vaunted women’s champions as Emma Bonino, the former EU Commissioner, who brought the wrath of the Taleban down on Afghan women when a CNN crew accompanying her filmed women patients in Kabul in 1997.
Of Hillary Clinton, another supposed advocate, she simply says: “She cannot defend her own rights against her husband. How can she defend the rights of my country?” At the 400-bed hospital in Kabul, where she now heads a separate women’s section, her colleagues speak reverentially of the woman who took on the Taleban on their own ground.
“General Siddiq, General Siddiq,” repeated nine times, was the universal answer from women medical students asked to name the person they most admired in the world.

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/western.htm

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25 posted on 09/19/2003 5:24 PM EDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Don't they care about the Iraqi people..at all?"~Sama in Iraq re. those pushing US to leave, 9/17)
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27 posted on 09/19/2003 5:51 PM EDT by SAMWolf (Teamwork is vital. It gives you someone to blame.)
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29 posted on 09/19/2003 8:54 PM EDT by Victoria Delsoul (There aren't enough conservatives in CA to vote for Tom and still have him to win. That's a fact)
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31 posted on 09/19/2003 9:20 PM EDT by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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33 posted on 09/19/2003 11:50 PM EDT by Valin (It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
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Thanks again Diogenes. We have a war now that needs to be won at home as well. These pictures are an inspiration as usual!

35 posted on 09/19/2003 11:56 PM EDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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In Baghdad, heroes of 3rd Battalion at the al-Maghrib Community Center
with Iraqi children, FREED BY THE USA.

In Basra, Iraq, in the Hawizeh Marsh. Destroyed under the rule of Saddam Hussein
it once covered 8,000 square miles. At last there is hope for these people, FREED BY THE USA..

36 posted on 09/19/2003 11:57 PM EDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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That ugly cat is no Mexican bandit. Actually, PKZ (Pacha Khan Zadran) is in influential Pashtun tribal leader. He was a US ally back in 2001. But he expected the US to make him governor of Paktia or Gardez (or both). We didn't; that was an Afghan political decision, and the US doesn't make Afghan decisions (argue, cajole, lean on, persuade, infuence, maybe, but the final decision is made by an Afghan). Karzai appointed another dude instead, and PKZ then began paying lip service (and still taking American money) while attacking American troops.

All Americans are pretty much on the same sheet of music with respect to him now -- he's a bad guy. This spring one of his elements tangled with one of ours and his son wound up dead. He claimed the body and took him back to Pakistan, where he has a sanctuary, but now it is a blood feud. Unfortunately the bulk of the Zadran tribe follow him.

Notice how stocky PKZ is. Not unusually so for an American, but he is a pachyderm among Afghans, who run pretty skinny after 25 years of warfare. The only guys that are chubby are warlords and Taliban dirtbags.

On another element in Dio's post: Burqas. This is a strange thing because Islam only adopted hijab in the last three hundred years (and most of them use a maronite-christian type of head scarf), but it was deeply embedded in Pashtun (aka Pathan) culture, which means it is now part of general Afghan culture. Women in many areas wear burqas, and in the rural area they will turn their backs on strange men. However, many Taliban era strictures, like women not being allowed out of doors without a male relative, and girls being forbidden schooling, are gone and even the most backward have little enthusiasm for returning them.

Diogenesis: before my unit went to Afghanistan, I saved many of your picture threads... most of our guys are voracious readers, but for those that learn more visually, your threads were a valuable training aid. Thanks a million.

Finally, for weapons buffs... what's different about the AK that PKZ's bodyguard is toting in the left of the picture? Yeah, he has a 40 round magazine, nicked from an RPK. He must be expecting trouble... may it find him soon!

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

37 posted on 09/20/2003 12:41 AM EDT by Criminal Number 18F (Support Billybob! >>>>========>>> http://www. ArmorForCongress.com/)
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An important spin off of the AKM is the RPK a light machinegun, the barrel is longer and heavier and the RPK has a bipod. The RPK use the 40-round magazine or a 75-round drum, but it could also use the AKM magazine. As from 1964 the RPK became the standard squad automatic weapon for the most Warsaw Pact armies.

39 posted on 09/20/2003 1:43 AM EDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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I send a lot of the "feel-good " ones to the vets I know, and friends and family who are still "in". Helps counter our negative media.

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40 posted on 09/20/2003 8:26 AM EDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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No goat shit Abtar, so I lob in another rocket and whoosh, up goes that camel butt sniffer Machmood's condo. It was was friggin beautiful. Allah is very happy with me now

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